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This is nonsense! If they were to develop a native app with exactly the same features it would take at most 250MB of RAM for the largest pages (such as large spreadsheets) and it would be a lot faster.Д¬ompare Google and Facebook webpages to almost any other webpage and you will see they use too much RAM. Most Google-owned webpages you visit are going to use at least 500MB on Safari or 800MB on Chrome. And Google is by far the worst offender in this regard. Website developers need to do their part as well. Sometimes a surprisingly large number, sometimes not too much.Д«ut thereвЂ™s something people need to take into account as well: thereвЂ™s only so much browser developers can do to optimize the browser. IвЂ™ve tested Safari many times before comparing it to other browsers (and correctly including child processes) and it has always beaten every other browser by using varying degrees of resources less than its competitors. In practice, the issues youвЂ™ve raised about browsing are quite easily fixable. ThatвЂ™s not the issue you brought up though.

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Yeah there is no solution to fixing the theoretical problem that some software somewhere can ask for more resources than you have. $100 in RAM right now could double or triple your capacity, if you donвЂ™t want to disable virtual memory nor change your browsing habits. I never have the problem youвЂ™re talking about, and I use dozens and dozens of tabs all day long every day with multiple browsers.

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> There is no possible computer upgrade that will fix the issue. Even if you got your wish of a browser that protected you from yourself, it wouldnвЂ™t solve the problem that landing in swap locks up the machine. Everything youвЂ™re talking about can and does happen with regular applications. The OS is the software locking up your computer, not the browser. How is it supposed to know you want it to cut off the app instead of do what you asked? What if the app asks for more memory in the middle of what youвЂ™re doing, do you want it to lose your work? If you use a web app that consumes 1GiB, the browser tries to accommodate your request. TheyвЂ™re not perfect, but all of todayвЂ™s browsers are pretty amazing in how well they handle low resources - but - the browser is just an application that does what itвЂ™s asked to do. If you study the browser design, and if you compare todayвЂ™s browsers to those of 5 or 10 years ago, you will find that all the browser devs are actually bending over backwards trying to help you. > ItвЂ™s the browserвЂ™s job to provide protection here. ItвЂ™s not that fair to go on and on about some vague abstract idea of malicious web sites and blaming the browser for not protecting you, if you are choosing to open lots of windows, browsers, desktops, tabs, and web sites. You can blame the browser and spend your time frustrated if you want to, or you can choose to avoid asking the computer to use 20 GiB and then complain when it swaps, by requesting less memory and/or disabling virtual memory. Hehe, the expected outcome of this behavior on an 8 GiB machine with default settings is a slow computer. > I open lots of tabs, in lots of browser windows, on lots of virtual desktops, but so what if I do? Fortunately itвЂ™s an optional feature, and you can turn it off. Swap is the explicit design tradeoff of the system you bought, and itвЂ™s the default behavior because most people prefer that their system work slowly to a system that stops working. Swap is not a security hole, itвЂ™s a feature doing exactly what it was designed for. If itвЂ™s unacceptable to lock up, then turn off virtual memory. In our world, the websites we consume decide what resources they're gonna eat, and how much network resources they're gonna load, leading to unexpected CPU/RAM/network usage (inducing в‚¬в‚¬в‚¬в‚¬ bills for cell phone data). In a better world, a browser would for every page disable Javascript/WASM by default, but have a convenient menu (alla Noscript) to choose between different security/performance profiles: webapp for unlimited resources/permissions, simple for basic JS for minor interactions (like LibreJS does), etc. Ideally, client-side scripting in the browser wouldn't be a thing at all (we'd have established, reproducible, secure software distribution mechanisms like guix's introduction channels). I personally systematically disable swap on laptops/desktops (but keep it on server). Second is OS starts writing to swap instead of triggering OOM killer, rendering the whole system unusable rather quickly. > I hit a wall of slowness, forcing me to press the power button and lose all my other work Good thing for me i disable JavaScript most times! Isn't that what Firefox's 'a tab may be slowing down your computer' (or equivalent) is doing? However it does not seem to trigger reliably.

I have never once seen a browser make a misbehaving site wait

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